
Ep. 210: Jon Bellion | Choosing Art Over Algorithm
Episode Timestamps:<\/p>
0:00 Bellion\u2019s Return & Industry Fire <\/p>
0:36 Ross ATWI Intro<\/p>
2:05 Supporting Songwriters\u2019 Rights <\/p>
2:41 Jon Bellion Returns After 6 Years <\/p>
3:56 Jon vs. the Algorithm <\/p>
6:56 AI, Effort & Meaning <\/p>
9:22 Craft Over Convenience <\/p>
11:57 Identity, Process & Philosophy <\/p>
18:21 Credit, Ego & Industry Power <\/p>
25:32 Sponsor Message from NMPA<\/p>
27:09 Staying Dangerous with Purpose <\/p>
32:06 Becoming the Label <\/p>
45:07 Removing Ego from the Process <\/p>
50:41 Returning to Joy in Creation <\/p>
54:58 Art vs. Math in Production <\/p>
57:23 Hits Beyond the U.S. <\/p>
1:05:16 On Raising Creative Kids <\/p>
1:07:52 Jon's Words of Advice to His Younger Self<\/p>
1:18:06 Grief, Healing & Writing Through Loss <\/p>
1:22:32 What Success Really Means in 2025 <\/p>
1:25:00 Writing vs. Recognition <\/p>
1:47:58 ATWI Credits & Closing Reflections<\/p>
Today’s guest is one of the most original minds in modern music—a genre-defying powerhouse who returns to this podcast six years after his first unforgettable visit. Hailing from Long Island, this producer, performer, and lyrical architect has built a sonic universe entirely his own. He’s the mastermind behind cinematic pop records that blur the line between the underground and the mainstream, with a resume that spans from crafting platinum hits for chart-toppers to delivering soul-baring solo projects that redefine authenticity. Now a father of three, his creativity has only deepened, as he balances vulnerability and virtuosity with relentless hustle. He’s not just a hitmaker—he’s a visionary, a builder, and a storyteller for a generation that craves depth. And the writer is… Jon Bellion!
Episode Timestamps:
0:00 Bellion’s Return & Industry Fire
0:36 Ross ATWI Intro
2:05 Supporting Songwriters’ Rights
2:41 Jon Bellion Returns After 6 Years
3:56 Jon vs. the Algorithm
6:56 AI, Effort & Meaning
9:22 Craft Over Convenience
11:57 Identity, Process & Philosophy
18:21 Credit, Ego & Industry Power
25:32 Sponsor Message from NMPA
27:09 Staying Dangerous with Purpose
32:06 Becoming the Label
45:07 Removing Ego from the Process
50:41 Returning to Joy in Creation
54:58 Art vs. Math in Production
57:23 Hits Beyond the U.S.
1:05:16 On Raising Creative Kids
1:07:52 Jon's Words of Advice to His Younger Self
1:18:06 Grief, Healing & Writing Through Loss
1:22:32 What Success Really Means in 2025
1:25:00 Writing vs. Recognition
1:47:58 ATWI Credits & Closing Reflections
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Every week, we sit down with an acclaimed and venerable songwriter to intimately discuss what happens behind closed doors in the music industry. There are millions of singers, thousands of artists, and only 40 top songs per genre at a time... this podcast is about the people who make them. Produced by Joe London & Ross Golan in association with Big Deal Music & Mega House Music. And The Writer Is... ™Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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